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Re: Climategate

Postby Charl » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:41 pm

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Re: Climategate

Postby outsider » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:13 am

Charl wrote:You are so sad, incapable of debate, and can't tell the difference between an honest disagreement and being called out on a dishonest, bulldust, unsupported POV. When you get called on your BS you resort to insult and bullying.

and as you raised the topic, I think it's your penis that's "insecure" :lol:

... oh let me try and remember... maybe 3+ years ago? and waaay less dramatically than you just did :lol: Time for you to get over your bull rage and act at least your height. :P
You are totally clueless, it's like you don't process information properly, I've seen it a hundred times on here. You lashing out at someone for something they didn't even say, don't know if it's the wine or senility, but it's a common occurrence, I was making fun of you. The only thing I have quit is participating in the nasty, insulting "debates" you seem to get into with the males on this forum. I hold my own in honest debates and have made you eat shit time and time again, so try to make up another insult, that one is obviously total bullshit. I'm pretty much done with you, not dropping down to your insulting,nasty level any more. Maybe you could get another screen name on here and insult yourself.
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Re: Climategate

Postby Charl » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:33 pm

I rest my case, your pattern is not to deal with the issue when proven wrong, but you are the first to use profanity, smears and personal innuendo in a bullying style. I just push back.

To get to the initial point, you (and others?) are trying to say that you DIDN'T jump on the University of East Anglia bash to discredit the whole entire climate change concept?
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Re: Climategate

Postby outsider » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:26 pm

Simply more lies from you or delusion. Just because you can dream it up and post it here, doesn't make it true, keep flailing away.

Never have any problem with anyone else on the forum as far as getting nasty, except with you. Others on the forum have no problem with others as far as things getting nasty, except with you.

But everyone else is the problem :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Rest your case on that
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Re: Climategate

Postby Charl » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:39 pm

plenty of people have problems w you Out and plenty of others have problems with others.

Like you, I don't have a problem with people who agree with me :mrgreen: unlike you I don't have a problem with people I disagree with, in fact I appreciate people I disagree with, I don't NEED agreement, I miss DISCUSSION on here, debate etc. because you and Hunter specifically and mahatma too as well as others tend to just go bonkers when the argument gets into gray areas, and resort to simplistic black and white demeaning statements as "supportive material"

I have problems with people like you and others who toxify and exaggerate differences, refuse to debate and get sexist, personally insulting and OFF TOPIC as a distraction.When that happens I push back.

If you actually read my posts over time you will find places where I have AGREED with and enjoyed debate with people i generally disagree with. Unlike a tribalized balkanized kind of style you have where you just refuse to even acknowledge a good point made in a debate because it's all about winning or losing rather than learning and expansion and trying to understand

So what ARE you saying vis-a-vis the East Anglia University research being investigated and found with integrity after all?

Or are you still ducking the point as usual?
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Re: Climategate

Postby fess » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:00 am



I read your above links, onlt three of them were made by me. I don't consider the content of either one of them to be caustic, or arrogant.
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Re: Climategate

Postby Charl » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:45 am

you are never caustic or arrogant fess, especially when you are discussing "Queen" Nancy Pelosi et al. :wink:
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Re: Climategate

Postby fess » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:15 pm

Charl wrote:you are never caustic or arrogant fess, especially when you are discussing "Queen" Nancy Pelosi et al. :wink:


Nice dodge.
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Re: Climategate

Postby Charl » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:03 pm


Scientists: New Study Affirms Climate Change Is 'Undeniable'-AP


Jul 28, 2:24 PM EDT

Scientists say global warming is continuing

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

"A comprehensive review of key climate indicators confirms the world is warming and the past decade was the warmest on record," the annual State of the Climate report declares.

Compiled by more than 300 scientists from 48 countries, the report said its analysis of 10 indicators that are "clearly and directly related to surface temperatures, all tell the same story: Global warming is undeniable."

Concern about rising temperatures has been growing in recent years as atmospheric scientists report rising temperatures associated with greenhouse gases released into the air by industrial and other human processes. At the same time, some skeptics have questioned the conclusions.

The new report, the 20th in a series, focuses only on global warming and does not specify a cause.

"The evidence in this report would say unequivocally yes, there is no doubt," that the Earth is warming, said Tom Karl, the transitional director of the planned NOAA Climate Service.

Deke Arndt, chief of the Climate Monitoring Branch at the National Climatic Data Center, noted that the 1980s was the warmest decade up to that point, but each year in the 1990s was warmer than the '80s average.

That makes the '90s the warmest decade, he said.

But each year in the 2000s has been warmer than the '90s average, so the first 10 years of the 2000s is now the warmest decade on record.

The new report noted that continuing warming will threaten coastal cities, infrastructure, water supply, health and agriculture.

"At first glance, the amount of increase each decade - about a fifth of a degree Fahrenheit - may seem small," the report said.

"But," it adds, "the temperature increase of about 1 degree Fahrenheit experienced during the past 50 years has already altered the planet. Glaciers and sea ice are melting, heavy rainfall is intensifying and heat waves are becoming more common and more intense."

Last month was the warmest June on record and this year has had the warmest average temperature for January-June since record keeping began, NOAA reported last week.

And a study by Princeton University researchers released Monday suggested that continued warming could cause as many as 6.7 million more Mexicans to move to the United States because of drought affecting crops in their country.

The new climate report, released by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and published as a supplement to the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, focused on 10 indicators of a warming world, seven which are increasing and three declining.

Rising over decades are average air temperature, the ratio of water vapor to air, ocean heat content, sea surface temperature, sea level, air temperature over the ocean and air temperature over land.

Indicators that are declining are snow cover, glaciers and sea ice.

The 10 were selected "because they were the most obviously related indicators of global temperature," explained Peter Thorne of the Cooperative Institute for Climate and Satellites, who helped develop the list when at the British weather service, known as the Met Office.

"What this data is doing is, it is screaming that the world is warming," Thorne concluded.

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Re: Climategate

Postby fess » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:30 am

Could it be that the global warming problem is being caused by some dastardly bastard playing around with the HARRP program?
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Re: Climategate

Postby Charl » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:32 am

This is the maybe 3rd or 4th time you have gone on about this fess.
I don't think so, too much diverse data from too many other directions for it to point to HARRP alone tho' you seem to think so?
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Re: Climategate

Postby fess » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:32 pm

Charl wrote:This is the maybe 3rd or 4th time you have gone on about this fess.
I don't think so, too much diverse data from too many other directions for it to point to HARRP alone tho' you seem to think so?

Except for my failed attempt at humor above, the only time I mentioned HARRP was when someone claimed that HARRP was responsible for the earthquake in Haiti.
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